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Submitted on Apr 28, 17:30 ET
US2 - Abolish Death Penalty
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The death penalty is unconstitutional, but the current Supreme Court won't do anything about it, so Congress should pass a law making it illegal for the federal government and states to impose the death penalty.
Arguments
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Congress should seriously study the costs, deterrent effect and biases inherent in imposition of the death penalty.  After such a study, it will become clear that the death penalty is senseless and unjust.
Submitted by saritap on Apr 28, 17:30 ET
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It costs far more to execute a person than to keep him/her in prison for life. 

"The additional cost of confining an inmate to death row, as compared to the maximum security prisons where those sentenced to life without possibility of parole ordinarily serve their sentences, is $90,000 per year per inmate."
- Report of the California Commission on the Fair Administration of Justice (2008)
Submitted by Greg Orr on May 9, 23:40 ET
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The death penalty is immoral and contradictory.  Moral systems uphold the sanctity of life, and taking the life is immoral.  As Jesus said: let him who is without sin cast the first stone.

Telling people that killing is wrong and then killing people is contradictory.
Submitted by cesium62 on Nov 7, 16:08 ET
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Their knowledge of their crime & punishment is the best revenge. No death necessary.
Submitted by golyadkin on Nov 18, 03:54 ET
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The death penalty cannot be used because society is imperfect and will sometimes put to death innocent people.  Applying an irrevocable penalty to someone who didn't deserve it is unacceptable.
Submitted by cesium62 on Nov 7, 16:07 ET
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The death penalty is racist.  It is applied far more to minorities than to caucasians.
Submitted by cesium62 on Nov 7, 16:05 ET
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I don't believe the death penalty is a deterrent, despite studies that might suggest otherwise.  Most people who commit murders either do not expect to be caught or do not carefully weigh the differences between a possible execution and life in prison before they act. Frequently, murders are committed in moments of passion or anger, or by criminals who are substance abusers and acted impulsively.  Also, states without the death penalty consistently have lower murder rates than states with the death penalty. 

 

I'm sure a review of the few studies saying that the death penalty is a deterrent would reveal significant flaws and inconsistencies in those studies.

Submitted by saritap on May 29, 20:14 ET
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Counterarguments
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The appropriate response of society to terrorism carried out around the world or within our borders is to apply the death penalty. The death penalty is also appropriate in the following cases:

  • Assassination of a law enforcement officer, judge, juror or prosecutor for the purpose of obstructing an ongoing criminal proceeding
  • Prolonged torture or multiple murders
  • Defendant has already been convicted of first-degree murder or who is serving a life sentence without parole

July 14, 2005, Testimony to the Massachusetts House of Representatives
Submitted by Mitt Romney on Aug 10, 16:55 ET
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A series of academic analyses in recent years have suggested that between three and 18 lives would be saved by the execution of each convicted killer.

http://www.cbsnews.com/2100-201_162-2911428.html

Sounds like a surprisingly strong deterrence effect. If it's accurate, it's a pretty strong argument for the death penalty.
Submitted by Greg Orr on May 28, 16:57 ET
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What about folks who are truly hateful and vow to kill if ever released?  Additionally, what about killers who endanger the life of fellow inmates?  Surely, some people need to be removed from society permanently.
Submitted by Lawmind on May 21, 00:55 ET
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  • This won't fly well because there are certain crimes and this whole issue is more than just politics, it's philosophy.
Submitted by Mister_Lane on May 17, 02:11 ET
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started by cesium62 on Nov 7

Weak Counterargument

This counterargument does not explain why the death penalty is sometimes an appropriate response. Assuming the death penalty is good and then describing when it should be applied is not a counterargument to the question of whether or not the death penalty should exist. This counterargument should be removed.
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started by DaDaDan on May 22
last reply by cesium62 on Nov 7

Full cost-benefit analysis needed (1 reply)

There is no deterrent benefit to executions.
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started by DaDaDan on Apr 29
last reply by cesium62 on Nov 7

Tenth Amendment implications (4 replies)

If congress cannot outlaw the death penalty, it's easy enough to change the title of the topic to "states should amend the constitution to abolish the death penalty". Implementation is a minor detail once we reach consensus on policy.
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started by cesium62 on Nov 7

badly formed argument

This counterargument should be reworded or deleted.  As currently written, the counterargument is incomprehensible.
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started by cesium62 on Nov 7

No study needed

It is already clear that the death penalty is senseless and unjust; we don't need congress to study the issue. Also, proposing that congress study the issue is policy, not an argument in favor of making the death penalty illegal. This "argument" should be removed.
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started by thunderjt on Oct 24

death penalty

I think we should have a death penalty but hang them. Anyone whom rapes, kills, hurts children. The people will change their bad ways.
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started by saritap on May 29

Life imprisonment is enough, plus a counter-proposal

Life imprisonment is enough to protect society.  I'm not sure about the numbers, but I'd be surprised if people who commit capital murder are more likely to endanger fellow inmates -- remember, only certain murders are eligible for capital punishment, and the people who commit those murders are not necessarily more violent, since they include things like murder during the commission of a felony, and even an accomplice to a felony who did not pull the trigger can get the death penalty. 

 

I would be more open to something like capital punishment only for people who commit murder in prison.  I think that might actually have a deterrent effect, it only kills people who have shown that life imprisonment is not enough to protect society, and I assume there would be more certainty about who was guilty, because of close monitoring by prison guards.

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started by pnoozi on May 23

No

This isn't a debate about whether we should remove people from society permanently.  This is a debate over the death penalty, which is just one method of doing so.
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