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Submitted on Apr 28, 16:18 ET
US1 - Eliminate the Capital Gains Tax Advantage
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Put capital gains into the same pot as other personal income and tax it all according to one set of progressive marginal tax rates.

"Long-term" capital gains were taxed at 28% until 1998 and lowered to 15% in 2003. Compare this with all personal income over $83.6k being taxed between 28% and 35%.

Eliminating the capital gains tax advantage would raise ~$100 BN per year in revenue.
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The long-term capital gains rate is just 15% and this is the primary reason why billionaires pay a lower tax rate than their secretaries. Essentially we have a tax system that favors those who sit back and watch their piles of money grow over those who earn their income through hard work.
Submitted by Greg Orr on Apr 28, 16:18 ET
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Interest from savings is taxed the same as regular income. Why should stock market investments be taxed less than savings?
Submitted by Greg Orr on Jul 29, 15:15 ET
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We should require anyone with their primary domicile (home) in America to pay capital gains tax in America. To those who leave anyway to get that lower tax rate, good riddance. America has a great chance of getting by doing non-finance things. America is a premium place to live and do business. It makes perfect sense that our tax rates would be slightly higher and based on principle instead of competitiveness.
Submitted by Greg Orr on Nov 29, 04:42 ET
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Mitt Romney, joking with a mid-level associate at Bain: 
"Yeah, you're at that tough level where you're paying a lot in taxes and it's a substantial portion of your income. Don't worry, it gets better."
Submitted by golyadkin on Jul 31, 19:51 ET
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Counterarguments
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#1 We are operating in a global environment. Money is like water it flows to the path of least resistance. You want capital flowing into the US. That is easy money, you don't have to pay them back. In order to get the money flowing investors (overseas and here) need to be encouraged otherwise they'll put in other places. Low taxes relative to other places encourage investment.

#2 Labor gets paid first, encourage the entrepreneur. "Trickle down" is a farse. There is no trickle down for entrepreneurs. They risk capital and pay labor first. Before any profit or anything is made or sold, labor gets paid. So no trickle down, is flows downs. So lower capital gains taxes encourages entrepreneurs. Entrepreneurs fail 5 times or more before hitting it, all the time labor gets paid. When the do hit it, everyone wins.

#3 Risk taking needs to be rewarded. Tenure, safety, is easy. Risking your money and time is hard, the payoff should be great.
Submitted by johntylerbus on Aug 14, 01:19 ET
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Capital gains, investments, and business related income is subject to corporate taxes already before it is paid. It is taxed twice separately. This is an imaginary crisis and hardly part of the "politics of fairness"
Submitted by Matt620 on Sep 11, 08:37 ET
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Rather than raising taxes (as you suggest) we should flatten the rules. I proposed a flat 12% tax rate for all income methods. Its competitive globally, its math works so that it increases revenues, and there is no longer an argument about 'fair'.

In the last decade, the average effective tax rate was 12.48 percent. So, people are paying that anyway. Lets make it official and reduce the regulatory burden and make foreign investment in the US possible again.
Submitted by 12percenttax on Aug 31, 10:33 ET
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  • Capital Gains is taxed at the normal income level, bro. The reason why you're seeing some corporations pay less is because of the Bush-era tax cuts, and the subsides. Also, the tax is way too high compared to the rest of the world.
Submitted by Mister_Lane on May 17, 02:19 ET
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I don't think people should be punished for using their brains to create wealth. I don't believe in taxes period. I believe everything should be done in passion. Investing is a passion. To submerge it with the burden of paying people like you who sit and think about how to take a profit on my personal passions is pathetic. For the sake of the argument though, I think physical mindless labor is easier than mental labor. If you have ever tried investing, you would know that the middle class are really the people who invest and they lose their money because it's not only mentally taxing to invest
Submitted by Faisal7 on May 13, 18:31 ET
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started by GregOrr on Sep 6

See our discussion at DailyKos

Our discussion at DailyKos. Strong, broad agreement.
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started by GregOrr on May 17

Incorrect: long-term capital gains are taxed at a flat 15%

Bush took it down to this low level in 2003, handing billions/year back to the rich. The popular argument at the time was that capital gains are double-taxed -- at the corporate level and then again at the personal level.
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started by GregOrr on May 14
last reply by GregOrr on May 14

Taxes are necessary (2 replies)

Parents do spend money on their children to raise them. Where do you suppose the government would get money if not for taxes?
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started by CynPrice on May 4
last reply by saritap on May 4

Capital Gains (1 reply)

I didn't think about write-offs -- things are even worse than I thought!
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